Fix new cades models, allow everyone to build

[DR.]

Gving Medics the ability to build barricades makes no sense to me at all and is really in conflict with the changes we have recently pushed. After all; you are an Engineer or a Medic, not an Engineering Medic or an Medical Engineer.

As an Inf I can pick up an Xbow, Throwing even a Bow and use it to help the team when i have nothing to do.

Locking down items just because you can't bring them in is ridiculous to my eyes... Image not being about to pick up Sok on any other hero other than Rg...


The only lock i agree with is not being about to pick up some stuff when you are (x) level to prevent power levelling at a stupid rate, however, that's not even set in stone as stuff like hammers are locked but stuff like swords are mostly usable by all. 



If the dev team is really heavy footed on this make a hero support class that costs 250k and it unlocks both the medic line and engineer line so people can use both ingame. Would get 4m+ out of just me... Scratch that i need my gold make it a mat sink.

or 

Make it making cades takes 2x as long to make and healing is 2x slower for the opposite class idk... just don't lock it down that you need that class to do that simple skill.

[Forward]

Want to add that new SHC also have excessive decorative elements to remove (if it's not obvious). And overall new cades are too thick, would be nice to see them thinner (same as old wall/shc) if you're going to change models anyway.

As for the last point, this will not happen.

Right now, if you're Engineer you still can NOT build if you don't have equipped cades, by the way. While I don't want to spend my time to argue with you again and again about restricted support classes, this restriction is against your own logic.

[Coconut]

Want to add that new SHC also have excessive decorative elements to remove (if it's not obvious). And overall new cades are too thick, would be nice to see them thinner (same as old wall/shc) if you're going to change models anyway.

As for the last point, this will not happen.

Right now, if you're Engineer you still can NOT build if you don't have equipped cades, by the way. While I don't want to spend my time to argue with you again and again about restricted support classes, this restriction is against your own logic.

yeah that happened to me last week as well. Wiped on w5 rag because i was bringing in barrel and no one on our team built. We had support just no one who wanted to place them i guess

[Julia.]

Want to add that new SHC also have excessive decorative elements to remove (if it's not obvious). And overall new cades are too thick, would be nice to see them thinner (same as old wall/shc) if you're going to change models anyway.

As for the last point, this will not happen.

Right now, if you're Engineer you still can NOT build if you don't have equipped cades, by the way. While I don't want to spend my time to argue with you again and again about restricted support classes, this restriction is against your own logic.

yeah that happened to me last week as well. Wiped on w5 rag because i was bringing in barrel and no one on our team built. We had support just no one who wanted to place them i guess

If you bring a cade first and then barrels you're able to place cade whilst on barrels, but why aint I able to build when I bring barrels first? Its not like I learn how to place stuff only once I brought one in. I am pretty sure that wiped more than one run allready... atleast from my experience.

[Kaasovic]

Want to add that new SHC also have excessive decorative elements to remove (if it's not obvious). And overall new cades are too thick, would be nice to see them thinner (same as old wall/shc) if you're going to change models anyway.

As for the last point, this will not happen.

Right now, if you're Engineer you still can NOT build if you don't have equipped cades, by the way. While I don't want to spend my time to argue with you again and again about restricted support classes, this restriction is against your own logic.

yeah that happened to me last week as well. Wiped on w5 rag because i was bringing in barrel and no one on our team built. We had support just no one who wanted to place them i guess

If you bring a cade first and then barrels you're able to place cade whilst on barrels, but why aint I able to build when I bring barrels first? Its not like I learn how to place stuff only once I brought one in. I am pretty sure that wiped more than one run allready... atleast from my experience.

I already pushed a feature that allows to access the build menu when bringing in barrels, should be ingame next patch

[Forward]

Want to add that new SHC also have excessive decorative elements to remove (if it's not obvious). And overall new cades are too thick, would be nice to see them thinner (same as old wall/shc) if you're going to change models anyway.

As for the last point, this will not happen.

Right now, if you're Engineer you still can NOT build if you don't have equipped cades, by the way. While I don't want to spend my time to argue with you again and again about restricted support classes, this restriction is against your own logic.

yeah that happened to me last week as well. Wiped on w5 rag because i was bringing in barrel and no one on our team built. We had support just no one who wanted to place them i guess

If you bring a cade first and then barrels you're able to place cade whilst on barrels, but why aint I able to build when I bring barrels first? Its not like I learn how to place stuff only once I brought one in. I am pretty sure that wiped more than one run allready... atleast from my experience.

I already pushed a feature that allows to access the build menu when bringing in barrels, should be ingame next patch

Not only barrels, but platforms, depshields or even nothing. Even people without cades should be able to contribute their time to building.

[Kaasovic]

Want to add that new SHC also have excessive decorative elements to remove (if it's not obvious). And overall new cades are too thick, would be nice to see them thinner (same as old wall/shc) if you're going to change models anyway.


Right now, if you're Engineer you still can NOT build if you don't have equipped cades, by the way. While I don't want to spend my time to argue with you again and again about restricted support classes, this restriction is against your own logic.

yeah that happened to me last week as well. Wiped on w5 rag because i was bringing in barrel and no one on our team built. We had support just no one who wanted to place them i guess

If you bring a cade first and then barrels you're able to place cade whilst on barrels, but why aint I able to build when I bring barrels first? Its not like I learn how to place stuff only once I brought one in. I am pretty sure that wiped more than one run allready... atleast from my experience.

I already pushed a feature that allows to access the build menu when bringing in barrels, should be ingame next patch

Not only barrels, but platforms, depshields or even nothing. Even people without cades should be able to contribute their time to building.

Platforms are already included and speaking of which, should get some special attention next patch.
Deployable shields are currently in an odd spot as they kinda became redundant which the introduction of constructable barricades, not sure what approach to take with them yet.
At the moment bringing in support is what sets the support class in game. It's on the todo list to overhaul this and have it set by communication with the website. People should still have the engineers class to be able to access it though

edit: this will eventually free up the 4th slot.

[Forward]

It's on the todo list to overhaul this and have it set by communication with the website.

At least you're aware about this issue.

[DR.]

Dep shield = Tower shield

All should be able to place it even if you don't agree with the "cade" one


Ps how good is tower in dep mode vs the best house crafted dep?

[Malong]

Agree to all 3.